Esoteric Chat

Robert Adamant - go to this post

You propose as a framework of morality to be that you ignore all threats at risk of being too scared to think clearly.
Perhaps you are in one such frenzy right now and cannot in good faith offer anything but my condolences for seeing the horrors of reality for the first time in your life.

Notice that I didn't propose any framework of morality. I criticized yours and tore it down. Any such assertions to the contrary stem entirety from your frightened imagination.

Furthermore, I am connected with reality on a far deeper level than you will ever be. You're concerned only with superficial aspects of reality which in the end are utterly irrelevant. This is nothing more than a rationalization of your ravenous sex drive. Once again, pathetic.

Robert Adamant - go to this post

There's no contradiction. Someone who forgets that they must die will neglect to consider how they wish to die. When you have a concern for a good death many other more horrible deaths are much more terrifying and clearer to avoid.

You're further contradicting yourself. Is it avoidance of death or is it choosing a manner of death? Those are two mutually exclusive ideas. What makes one death terrifying and another not when the nature of death is that it all leads to the same end regardless.

Robert Adamant - go to this post

Defense is the nature of discussion. Becoming defensive is a movement of combat and I am not ashamed for giving you the respect of an opponent but perhaps it is too much for you to bring conflict into your life

I'm not referring to rational defense. I'm referring to your becoming emotionally enflamed and flustered over a simple discussion. It's as though I've offended your very sense of self. This is immature behavior, and has no place in logical discourse. You've closed yourself off and now you're trying to protect your fragile ego regardless of how much of an ass you make of yourself in the process.

Robert Adamant - go to this post

you ought to resign on those grounds

You ought to cease replying out of the embarrassment of your own positions. The merit of your very own posts is enough to abandon this forum altogether, my own posts not even considered for sake of argument. I need not even argue against your points to illustrate your folly, you achieve this of your own accord.

Robert Adamant - go to this post

suppose I got my answer

Clearly you fail to understand how a forum works. This isn't text messaging, replies aren't meant to be instantaneous. This is a place where substantive replies are meant to be drafted asynchronously. If you can't be patient, that's too bad. Some people have lives, unlike you, and log in and out at different times of the day.

Robert Adamant - go to this post

Hell yeah

I rest my case.

Robert Adamant - go to this post

(This is a test to see if you're a good faith actor or someone who only has casual convictions)

Hiding behind Shavian is a cowardly attempt at an out for someone who realizes that he has lost. I can read that garbage and I'm not interested in your meaningless ideology with your baseless "beast" concepts and all of that horseshit. You are a bad faith actor because you're attempting to flee the argument by presuming I won't be able to or bother reading your junk that you've intentionally obfuscated. Your convictions are entirely baseless and indefensible which is why you refuse to openly present them in a plainly readable format. You're a coward and you evidently aren't confident enough in your own ideology to present it in the open. You're a disgrace to this forum and you're incapable of conversing at the big boy table. Go back to 4chins or whatever grungy hole you crawled out of.

Furthermore, this is a forum which makes use of the modern Latin alphabet. We are not going to move over to Shavian. You aren't special or cool or esoteric for using a phonetic alphabet that you didn't even make. Grow up.

Robert Adamant - go to this post

You clearly have no interest in showing how committed you are to making my life as good as possible. It's unfortunate yet predictable.

I have certainly showed an interest via taking time out of my day to correct your flawed moral ecosystem. Had I no concern or regard for others, why would I bother correcting a flawed worldview, bringing someone closer to the truth?

Dr. Gene Ray, Ph.D. - go to this post

I have certainly showed an interest via taking time out of my day to correct your flawed moral ecosystem. Had I no concern or regard for others, why would I bother correcting a flawed worldview, bringing someone closer to the truth?

not sufficient and a reenforced position based on your second sentence.

you asked a question, it seemed as though you were expecting a response.
Perhaps you've just learned that anyone who looks to you for a sustained conversation is desperate.

I have spent a lot of time creating a moral framework for myself.
I studied Mormons, Quakers, Scientologists and Jehova's Witnesses by going to their places of worship for months and speaking to the people about their concept of morality. Beyond just that field work I read the quran and both the old and new testaments along with modern texts noted to have "cult followings" for their moralistic themes like The Lord of the Rings, Atlas Shrugged and others.
After a couple of years working through all of this wisdom I collected I found the most effective way of presenting a comprehensive synthesis of this diverse set of beliefs was a set of archetypal sociological beasts along with the concept of adamance.

I can fully understand that there would be skepticism to what I propose simply because no one should so easily submit to someone claiming to have solved the problem of morality more effectively than the thousand monkeys on typewriters have tried to do before. Yet, I insist that this is the case and for you to refute it you would have to read everything I've read and gone to speak with all the people I have and manage to find a different conclusion. It's logistically unreasonable to expect that of you but until then you will simply have to either dismiss me at your own peril and with no valid cause or fully submit also at your peril and again with no valid cause.

The most effective way I could communicate this is saying it is a manifestation of the beast Simia. It's as good as me telling you Bigfoot is real and it's impossible to provide any better evidence in favor of my beast/Beast while also being perfectly impossible to dispute the reality of Simia or Bigfoot.

You're frustrated and the only way to resolve it is either fully denying or fully admitting my position and there cannot ever be any valid argument for or against.

It's just objectively unfair to expect you to read all of the books in this picture, a collection I call "Prism of Death" but when answering the question of morality I have found these to be critical for even beginning to have any meaningful discussion.

When I say death it is in reference to 10+ million words of literature.
You simply aren't using the same language as me.
You haven't gone through the effort and you couldn't have known what effort was necessary to establish yourself as seriously concerned.
I don't think you need to talk to all of the various religious groups and read through all of the ancient texts.
I would say that if we're going to have a discussion on morality it would require that you have at least read through what I call "Prism of Death" at least once.
That's logistically possible but it would require an immense investment from you for something that you have no rational cause to dedicate yourself to.
So long as you're concerned with rationality it will never occur that you and I could discuss morality so long as you are unwilling to fully submit to my wisdom without question.
This might seem like an extreme expectation of you but with every robust and time tested system of morality they all require it as do I.

Moderation - go to this post

Do not double post use the Edit function.

You have been warned.

New definition then I suppose, Vogon slug.

Dr. Gene Ray, Ph.D. - go to this post

Dr. Gene Ray, Ph.D. - go to this post

12yearold - go to this post

Nice quote job fuck ass.

thnx <3